Stop bagging Queenstown snow
02 Aug 2012
The boy who cried wolf
''It's a beautiful clear day on the peak today'' said the NZSki report as I looked at a sleet spattered webcam. ''90cm base'' as I looked at tussock and rock bisected by a toothpaste ribbon of melting artificial snow.
''We all should be working together, that’s what Queenstown Inc’s all about'' says the man who refuses to pay commission on pass sales yet demands huge commission on all local activity sales bought with NZSki's Superpass. The man who tried to shut down commercial transport to the slopes operated by anyone other than NZSki. The list goes on and on.
Honesty? Would this be the same NZSki that avoids refunding lift passes on bad weather days by keeping the magic carpet running and so technically remaining open?
I don't think Mr Coddington would know truth if it danced naked on a table holding a neon sign flashing ''I'm the truth''.
You will get the respect and credibility you so crave when you start being honest and stop trampling on the local community you live in. That'll be the day I'm ''pleasantly surprised''.
05 Aug 2012 11:52PM localyokel
honesty is the best policy
I totally agree with NZski that we need to stop rubbishing the likes as it is the main p,layer in the sustainability of the town. In saying that as many have before, the people are usually here for a limited time so dont have the choice to limit their time on the slopes.
Snow conditions and snowfall rates are the first thing that need to be addressed and be honest about. Why does your forecast on one day say 20-30cm but the online snow report states otherwise? go figure. Dont hype it up for the sake of meet targets.
On top of which there is and always will be the argument of whos local and when this sort of stuff is happening locals are the first to point it out and they do so without regard. This wouldnt be a problem if you did not give the ammo to criticise.
Not many locals are at all fond of NZski as it seems they are not fond of honest locals. time to work together be honest and sort it out.
Myself and 1 other were the 1st at remarks on opening day arriving at the chair at 3.30am. we got no aknowledgement and ended up on the 6th chair. As a local you should appreciate we all live and work here and not patronise us just to look good and sound good for the masses who come and go. time to pull your socks up nzski. just remember alot of your daily functions require dedicated locals.
03 Aug 2012 04:06PM vinnypollett
I think it is very hypocritical of NZSKI to do so little for the locals with regards to their season pass pricing and then ask for us to support them when rumors start going around about how little snow they have.
The fact is that the majority of time coronet peak is not the most enjoyable mountain to ride. Yes it has the largest snow making facilities in the southern hemisphere but they need it because they would struggle to operate if they had to rely primarily on natural snow.
I work front line in a hotel so a I hear first hand what the conditions are like on the mountains. From what I've heard from my guests this week coronet peak was okay on Tuesday straight after the fresh snow but has been less than ideal since.
Next season NZSKi will get exactly $0.00 from me as I will be purchasing a Cardrona season pas.
03 Aug 2012 03:48PM eddienz
what you mean you dont like people talking crap??
As others have pointed out nz$ki seem more than happy to talk crap in their snow reports so why are they suprised or annoyed that locals would talk crap about the the snow?? Tuesdays "10cm at the base and 30cm at the top" is a prime example.
We were at the base less than 40mins after the first snow report was issued and their was 3-4cm of new snow. At the top 40mins later it was pretty windy and yeah there were some big drifts and the onese beside the fences would have been 30cms but in plenty of places there was next to nothing due tot he wind.
I would challenge n$ski to release the ski patroller snow measurements so we can compare them to their BS marketing "measurements" but bet they are too pussy and don't want people talking crap...
03 Aug 2012 10:02AM kiwi2
In all my 40 years of skiing in Queenstown and as a 20 year local I have yet to see an honest snow report when it becomes mariginal conditions. Coronet concrete that you can't stand on refered to as hard but softening, yeah right. When you look at the Peak from the Shotover river mouth in mariginal conditions it resembles a big $ sign, the M-1being the 'S' and the main chair the stroke thru it, seems to indicate thats its all about money on the mountain not the experience it's made out to be.
But it's a great mountain when it's got an honest metre all over it.
02 Aug 2012 09:31PM nicham
I'm not sure people are rubbishing it. As a local, these are the first I've heard of these 'rumours'. I always thought that at least with Coro, you have good cannon coverage as long as it's cold. And if you're on the trail, you don't really notice that the snow is patchy elsewhere. ie. You can have a lot of fun.
I do agree though that there's a fine line between hype that's sensible from a marketing point of view -vs- false advertising. The former can inform people that things might improve, the latter sets people up for disappointment and erodes integrity.
If it's wet snow, call it wet snow (not powder).
Maybe something like "Yay, it's snowing!" would have sufficed this time.
02 Aug 2012 05:39PM tobybear
People would stop rubbishing it
If NZSKI were a little more honest with their snow amounts - 30cm the other day? Where in a wee wind drift?
02 Aug 2012 11:05AM Patron
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